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Post by Shaun on Nov 26, 2005 12:48:34 GMT -5
In several biographies it says that Kate didn't like to talk about her time spent with Spencer during these years. Apparently his health had started to decline and she was forced to spend much of her time with him. I have a couple of questions about this time: why didn't she like to talk about these five years, and what roles did she turn down during this time?
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Post by Sherry on Nov 26, 2005 22:16:51 GMT -5
If you just want an opinion on why she didn't talk about those five years, I think that it was simply a case of her wanting the memories of those five years to just be hers. She stated that they just "lived" and it was "bliss". When you love someone, there are things that only the two of you share and you want it just for yourselves -- I think that is the way Kate viewed that time with Spencer. She loved him and wanted to take care of him and they both knew that they were not going to grow old together -- this was precious time for both of them. She wanted the memory of that time to just be his and hers.
Kate turned down various screen roles -- don't have a list handy but can recall a stage role that she refused. Tennessee Williams wrote the "Milk Train Doesn't Stop Here Anymore" with Kate in mind for the lead role. She turned it down because she was staying in LA with ST and ultimately Tallulah Bankhead played the part on Broadway.
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Post by smith on Nov 27, 2005 1:55:49 GMT -5
Shaun
Katharine wanted to spend time with Spencer - she wasn't in any way forced to give up her career . My idea is that Katharine might not have wanted to marry Spencer but they finally got after all those years to live together like any other couple - and that time was precious . Also Katharine's father was a doctor and I think she knew how precarious his health was .
In one of the letters I saw Katharine wrote to her friends and they had been the doctor and they said Spencer was better but Katharine said she wasn't convinced . I think she knew that time was running out .
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Post by guesttoo on Nov 28, 2005 12:24:33 GMT -5
Kate turned down various screen roles -- don't have a list handy but can recall a stage role that she refused. Tennessee Williams wrote the "Milk Train Doesn't Stop Here Anymore" with Kate in mind for the lead role. She turned it down because she was staying in LA with ST and ultimately Tallulah Bankhead played the part on Broadway. Williams wrote Night of the Iguana for KH not the Milk Train Doesn't Stop Here Anymore.
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Post by Sherry on Nov 29, 2005 1:51:53 GMT -5
Kate turned down various screen roles -- don't have a list handy but can recall a stage role that she refused. Tennessee Williams wrote the "Milk Train Doesn't Stop Here Anymore" with Kate in mind for the lead role. She turned it down because she was staying in LA with ST and ultimately Tallulah Bankhead played the part on Broadway. Williams wrote Night of the Iguana for KH not the Milk Train Doesn't Stop Here Anymore. He actually wrote both plays with Kate in mind. She turned down "Night" because ultimately she didn't think it was the right part for her. In fact she went to see it when it was on B'way and told Williams "I would have ruined your play". He, of course, did not believe that for one minute. He also wrote "Milk Train" with her in mind. It you need evidence, read Tab Hunter's new bio. He starred in the play on B'way with Bankhead so I think he would know for whom the part was originally intended. He states specifically that Kate turned it down so that she could spend time with Spencer Tracy who was ailing. He goes on to say that Bankhead was such a headache for the director that he (Hunter) thought the director often wished that Kate was there doing the part instead of Tallulah.
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Post by guesttoo on Nov 29, 2005 2:48:52 GMT -5
Williams wrote Night of the Iguana for KH not the Milk Train Doesn't Stop Here Anymore. He actually wrote both plays with Kate in mind. She turned down "Night" because ultimately she didn't think it was the right part for her. In fact she went to see it when it was on B'way and told Williams "I would have ruined your play". He, of course, did not believe that for one minute. He also wrote "Milk Train" with her in mind. It you need evidence, read Tab Hunter's new bio. He starred in the play on B'way with Bankhead so I think he would know for whom the part was originally intended. He states specifically that Kate turned it down so that she could spend time with Spencer Tracy who was ailing. He goes on to say that Bankhead was such a headache for the director that he (Hunter) thought the director often wished that Kate was there doing the part instead of Tallulah. There's nothing in William's papers about him writing The Milk Train Doesn't Stop Here Anymore for KH and there's nothing I've ever read that indicates that she turned it down. But I'm glad you are keeping up with your reading. Is Hunter's book as gay as I've heard it is?
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Post by Cate on Nov 29, 2005 3:46:56 GMT -5
Does that mean people think his book is "happy" or... "homosexual"? Just curious.
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Post by Judy on Nov 29, 2005 11:30:13 GMT -5
There's nothing in William's papers about him writing The Milk Train Doesn't Stop Here Anymore for KH and there's nothing I've ever read that indicates that she turned it down. But I'm glad you are keeping up with your reading. Is Hunter's book as gay as I've heard it is? Oh, now, stop, will you. Can't you respond to people in a considerate manner, without this stupid sarcasm? Why must you turn everything into a snotty little put-down? You disagree. You have your proof. Just say it. Geez!
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Post by Sherry on Nov 29, 2005 16:20:12 GMT -5
Does that mean people think his book is "happy" or... "homosexual"? Just curious. Good one -- cyber high five!
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Post by Cate on Nov 29, 2005 16:33:31 GMT -5
He he ;D Right back at ya.
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