Howard

[Cate]

OK I wasn't going to make an entirely new thread for this. I can't believe there's not a Howard Hughes thread! Anyway, you know you are obsessed when you meet someone named Kate Hughes (like I did the other night) and automatically think about Kate and Howard. We need to make one of those "You know you're obsessed when" lists. ;D

[Shaun]

You know you're obsessed with Katharine Hepburn when you begin to quote lines from her movies. Okay I haven't actually done this yet, but when ever the situation comes up, I'm going to quote Stage Door and say "you don't have to be a hen to know a bad egg!" One of my favorite lines from a Kate movie!

[Cate]

"Art my eye" or anything "my eye". I actually heard someone say this the other day. I couldn't help but think they stole it from Kate. I actually DO quote lines from movies but no one ever gets it. Unless they're like 70. This is why I love old people

Oh yeah, I was discussing The Philadelphia Story a while back with a coworker... after about three minutes of talking about it, she said "Didn't they remake that with Tom Hanks?" I totally gave up on her after that. Maybe that doesn't fit in the obsessed category but when you're discussing Katharine Hepburn with anyone you think you're being obsessive and don't know when to stop.

[Shaun]

Let me ask you this, had she even heard of Kate? If so, then that's a good sign! I really pity people from my generation who hate old movies because they're in black and white. Whenever someone says that, they're just putting their ignorance on display. Oh, well it's not my fault they're stupid!

[HollywoodHepcat]

Let me tell you, you know you're obsessed with Katie Hep (and classic film for that matter) when you have an emotional breakdown in school and run out of your film class bawling because those mindless numbskulls called old hollywood -and I quote- "POINTLESS to study"
Excuse me, WHAT?!!!!
Classic film is seriously my life (Dream job=Bob O's hosting spot. I want to go into Film History as a Major next year. Trouble is, there's no such major!! Shoot me now.) and the fact that my idiot generation doesn't get its importance just kills me. I was talking to my friend the other day and she didn't even know what Psycho was! Oh boy, I'm ranting, and this post is about Howard! Egads!
Ah well, let me just say I should have been born in 1907.
Ugh. ;D

[Shaun]

You know you're obsessed with Kate Hepburn when you imagine traveling back in time to the 30s and 40s and seeing her movies in theatres when they were first released...no joke. I've done this a lot!

[Richard]

metrostah said:

Let me tell you, you know you're obsessed with Katie Hep (and classic film for that matter) when you have an emotional breakdown in school and run out of your film class bawling because those mindless numbskulls called old hollywood -and I quote- "POINTLESS to study"
Excuse me, WHAT?!!!!
Classic film is seriously my life (Dream job=Bob O's hosting spot. I want to go into Film History as a Major next year. Trouble is, there's no such major!! Shoot me now.) and the fact that my idiot generation doesn't get its importance just kills me. I was talking to my friend the other day and she didn't even know what Psycho was! Oh boy, I'm ranting, and this post is about Howard! Egads!
Ah well, let me just say I should have been born in 1907.
Ugh. ;D

You know, it's funny you should say that.

When I first walked into my Film class this semester in college, the professor gave out this outline for his students and behind it was a list of films he told us to consider watching, as they're considered classics. There were about 30 of them listed and I had already seen about 12 of them. Not too bad. But anyway, our first film screening was Howard Hawks' "Scarface" and many if not most of the class were reluctant to even watch it because it was B&W. By the end of the film, almost everyone loved it.

What I'm getting at is that maybe, for some, they just need to be introduced to these films. They always make wrong assumptions when all their little pea-brained minds only watch are movies that come out at their nearest multiplex. Our generation is not very aware of Old Hollywood, and that's just sad.

One of the first assignments we had to do in Film 1 was to write what we considered was the best movie ever made... some respones were The Matrix, Face-Off, and Terminator 2. (Although I consider the latter to be plausible, really important film of the 90s, in my opinion.)

If anyone thinks The Matrix is the best movie ever made, they clearly haven't seen enough.

shaun said:

You know you're obsessed with Kate Hepburn when you imagine traveling back in time to the 30s and 40s and seeing her movies in theatres when they were first released...no joke. I've done this a lot!

No way! I... I do that too! Hey... do you think we're brothers?

[Cate]

Katie Hep? lolol

My generation and your generation (X and Y?) weren't introduced to the classics most likely because our parents were born in the late fifties and sixties. So by the time they're grown up, the only movies they have to show to their kids are the ones made in the seventies and eighties... Unless of course you have grandparents who show you movies... Or a dad (such as mine -- who was born in the forties) that doesn't watch anything but classic movies and you grow up watching war movies and westerns and are the only 5 year old who wants to rent Yours, Mine, and Ours and Father Goose every time you go to rent movies.
Not watching a movie because it is in B&W is completely asinine. I don't think I can even describe how asinine it is
Kids look to MTV and all those other pop culture shows for what is cool to watch. What other kids are watching... Or what the next movie with Hilary Duff is. Do you think MTV vjs are going to be telling its audience to go out and rent The Philadelphia Story? lol
So, yeah, we, as Generations X & Y, need to show our children (or other people's children) old movies and keep the trash they show kids now out of the house -- I can't believe how many little kids I see walking around backtalking their parents (probably because of one of the cartoons they show on Nickelodeon that are more for adults than kids) and the parents just let them! Or they try to use some child psychology advice they got and ask their child "why they are feeling that way" when what they need is a kick in the butt.
We could show a little kid practically any movie pre-fifties and we would never get embarrassed or feel the need to cover their eyes and ears (although I'm still trying to figure out why we actually feel the need to hide sex and nudity from kids -- is it still considered a bad thing?) And the great thing is, they're still really good movies and any sexual references are going to go right over the kid's head. Besides, it's much sexier to suggest than to show.
Oh and I guess I can join Shaun and Richard's --fantasy of seeing Kate's movies in the theater-- group

[Shaun]

No way! I... I do that too! Hey... do you think we're brothers?

Yeah, we were probably separated at birth ;D What film did you write about for that assignment?

I COMPLETELY agree with everything you said Catherine. The majority of movies that come out now are garbage with no-talent actors. Who the hell had the big idea to cast Paris Hilton in a movie? What is the world coming to?!

[Richard]

I chose Singin' In The Rain. I was close to putting down Gone With The Wind or Sunset Blvd, but hesitated.

Plus, I was still hyped up about it. Greatest musical of all-time, methinks.

[Cate]

OH, and Amber, you can major in Film... and of course take film history courses. You're in NY for God's sake! There's an abundance of schools for people interested in film. A good friend in NY has been taking "acting lessons" (it's turned more into psychoanalytical sessions) from Thurman Scott, who trained with Stella Adler. I guess I don't know if you're interested in the acting aspect... maybe just the history. But if you are, I recommend him. www.actorstheatreworkshop.com/. She's been taking classes from him for the past 5 years. You don't exactly get a degree but he's a great teacher. He doesn't just study the physical aspect of it. He goes into the mental as well... acting from the core, I guess. Writing and directing are also a part of his school. Plus he's a very cool guy.

[Cate]

Paris Hilton is trash. People like trash... because that's all they're fed! I used to feel sorry for her. She was pretty and seemed to get picked on because she liked to party and might not be very smart. But now that I've watched a few things on her, I realize that yeah, she really is dumb and arrogant and uses that (for some unknown reason) to become famous.

[HollywoodHepcat]

Yeah, I've got some humdinger pet names for Katty, Kaffy Kit-Kat! (once I ate pringles and it came out like that)

Paris Hilton is trash on a stick. Throw rocks at her. That sounded mean. How about throwing...cotton candy puffs at her so they'd get all sticky in her synthetic hair and she'd have to cut it and be bald. No? Tough luck. Funny thing about her-on the news (Yes, Paris' life is of national importance) last night they talked about how she just bought a pet monkey and I kept thinking, "Ammoossss." ;D

And Shaun, Richard and Catherine...make room for another body in that time machine. I'm a loser though, I actually have had dreams where it's 1941 and I'm hiding with a camera in a shrub somewhere behind the Irving G. Thalburg Building on the Metro lot and taking pics of KathnSpence meeting for the first time. But then I squeed outloud and Joe and KathnSpence turned towards me in the shrub and I ran like the wind and woke up. Damn. I would have liked to have had those pics developed. Ah well.

And yep, Catherine, I think we're all singing the same modern generation (movie) blues. Kids think and act the way they do today partly because their parents don't show them things (and are submissive), as you've said, and because the media is warped and is so eager to fit the teeanger into a set mold. Observe one of my school dances and you'll find people turning into flesh-pretzels left and right. I just get frustrated sometimes because I don't connect with people my age simply for not having my tastes in my foot.

*Catherine, thanks so much for the pep-talk and link. I'm going through the "Senior Year Flip Out" right now so I tend to write myself out of it. I know I live in NY, but I don't want to move far away (just yet) and the schools near me just...well...suck. I realize there are tons o' Film Majors, but mostly are all about production and I really just am interested in the history. How do film historians become what they are? But, I do appreciate it.

Much Love.

[Cate]

Oh so lucky!! lol I've never had a Kate dream. I've had a Spencer Tracy dream, strangely enough. I dreamed we were filming a movie together and in one scene, we are falling from the top of the building and I wake up before we hit -- and the apartment where we are filming is my old apartment in Astoria. LOL Give me a Kate dream, please!

[gypsygem81]

well that's a cool dream too! Maybe you were dreaming that you were Kate?!

Love Gem