but ... BUB was messed with (in its own very 70s way) ... *what's up doc* ...
but are you both saying that you're finding the promos for the new 'the women' ... um .. lame? misguided? i'm trying to remember where i saw a spot for the new movie recently ... shots of annette benning in the roz russell role (i'm guessing .. .whatever the new script calls her) piqued my interest. meg ryan doing her pouty mouth "what? who? ME?" look puts me to sleep however. i'm guessing she's playing the mary role .. arg.
reports of remakes of this movie have been regular announcements for decades, with evolving sets of intriguing 'women of the moment' announced in the various roles. i would love to read the backstory about the movie rights to the story since the 1930s version, and who has owned them since then (for these announced-but-never-appearing-until-now-remakes over the years) ... and challenges that have been encountered along the way. i wonder about the scripts that have been generated .. .i wonder .. but i guess, that's the dramaturg in me. intrigued in these versions.
"What would you have me do? Give out, give up, give in?"
Post by HollywoodHepcat on Aug 16, 2008 0:34:20 GMT -5
I'm not ashamed of my love for What's Up Doc? Quality movie, that. It's not a word-for-word remake, Alyssa dear. More like beautiful Bogdanovich homage.
But The Women?!
Oh, Meg Ryan. I can't watch you up there on that 40 ft screen anymore without wondering why you did that to your face.
....the thing is, as much as I adore and respect some of the actors cast in the remake, it boils down to the fact that it's a BLOODY REMAKE OF THE WOMEN.
I'm not against remakes entirely. If it was a B picture from Monogram that they were facilitating CPR on, then I'd say have at it, studio execs... but THE WOMEN? Adrian? George Cukor? ShearerCrawfordRussellGoddardFontaineBolandMainWeidler? MGM? Jungle Red? Need I go on?!
I feel as if I'm conveying myself as one bonafide stuck-up, but an occurance like this reminds me that the proverbial well is running dry in Hollywood.
[BUT, OH SURE, THEY PULLED X-F2'S PLUG AFTER 3 WEEKS? Unfair and brutal critics, awkward promotion and a senseless summer slot killed my little movie that could. Snivel. Yes, I'm bitter.]
Edit: Second tv spot is now airing. The words 'jungle red' just spewed from Meg Ryan's mouth and hypothetical up-chuck has now spewed from mine.
When I first heard this movie was being made I was like ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! It looks like a piece. I mean what the hell? The first one was awesome no one can touch it. And:
Joan Crawford>Eva Mendes
Norma Shearer>Meg Ryan.
UGH. And I am very happy I haven't seen Meg Ryan say Jungle Red, oh god I might throw my tv out the window if I do!
Haha agreed!! I mean wtf Eva Mendes??? I'm not being racist or anything but she is hispanic, far from Joan Crawford. I mean it's not that I don't like her it's just I can't picture her playing Joan Crawford's role!
And Meg Ryan in Norma Shearer's role, and with her face?? Umm...no.
I bet it's going to get bad reviews from the critics.
*Dayna* "If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun!"
Post by fireandmusic on Aug 18, 2008 22:00:25 GMT -5
This movie is AMAZING!! I watched it for the first time last friday (I know, I know...) and simply LOVED it. Rosalind Russell was so friggin' hilarious, omg, she was my favourite part. And Joan, loved her in it too, even though she played a btch lol
It's such a classic, perfect just the way it was... I'm not happy at all about this! And what a poor choice of actresses! Meg Ryan is so boring... I can't stand her (if you're a fan, sorry). And although I like Annette, I can't see her playing Sylvia! Sylvia is Roz!! Eva Mendes? W-T-F?
i suppose we should just re title this thread "the women: the remake" or summin ... cause who is really this angry any more?? this remake just IS.
but to share .. in today's New York Times .... a grid comparing the 1939 (really? 1939 .. lessee .. what *other* great american movie was released that year .. humm "i could while away the hours conferring with the flowers ... ") ... where was i .. comparing the 1939 version of the women to this 2008 version
Post by HollywoodHepcat on Aug 31, 2008 15:06:16 GMT -5
So, folks, I've accepted the fact that I must coexist with this remake if I am ever to preserve what little sanity is left in my brain. This is not to say that I will ever have it over for dinner or even spend a day shopping with it. It just..... well, IS, as Martha put it.
So, my query: Dare I read that?
Also, I'm a gofugyourself.com loyalist and a snippt from their blog:
"I was talking to my friend Grant yesterday about this remake of The Women Eva Mendes is in, and how I am really not very interested in it, in part because the casting makes me feel like I just tripped and fell into 1995 (Eva Mendes aside, actually), but also because the sentence, "Eva Mendes takes over the Joan Crawford role" makes my blood run ice cold, and surely makes Joan Crawford's ice cold blood run hot as she attempts to claw out of her grave to go smack Eva Mendes around. The more I think about it, the more I kind of don't get Eva Mendes in general."
My thoughts exactly, Jessica. My thoughts exactly.... [except for the fact that I think Joan is grossly misunderstood in our culture thanks to that ingrate daughter of her's and thusly, the characterization of Joan having ice cold blood naturally makes MY ice cold blood run HOT.]
Judy: All has changed on the Proboard....Not sure my reply got posted. Anyway, thanks for the notice, Evelien. I'm unable to access it. I can watch the clip of the woman flipping through the Kate books and talking about fashion - one of which is Rebel Chic :-)
Feb 4, 2014 20:29:21 GMT -5
dreamer: Ok peeps have tried to figure this new board - with not much success In order to login - click at the upper right corner - use your name from the board and your password and it should be all right. If not - please let me know and I will try to help!
Jul 29, 2014 7:30:03 GMT -5
Judy: I can enter. But not sure how to post now....Although I have nothing exciting to say, except hello to everyone!
Jul 29, 2014 20:34:38 GMT -5
Sherry: Hello in return.
Jul 31, 2014 10:40:25 GMT -5
HollywoodHepcat: Awww, hiiii!! I'm randomly here in hope of sourcing a quote of Kate's about Joel Mccrea-- coming up short, though. Ah well, hope everyone is well!! FINALLY A RED AND WHITE BANNER. TOOK 8 YEARS, BUT... WE MADE IT.
Aug 5, 2014 20:43:01 GMT -5
Tracy Lord: Just wanted to say a big HEY to everyone! I would love it if this board was active like it once was. I've missed it!
Aug 6, 2014 17:23:36 GMT -5
evelien: Hi everyone, hope you're all fine. I'm still alive and kicking and still as big a KH fan.
Aug 12, 2014 12:09:24 GMT -5
evelien: Judy: to reply to an existing thread, you can post a message in the 'quick reply' box under the last post on the page. To create a new thread: click on the folder you wish to post a new thread in and on the top right side you can choose 'New thread'.
Aug 12, 2014 12:11:39 GMT -5
CFK: So we all heard about Betty Bacall, I guess? Pretty rotten news, especially following so closely on Robin Williams. What a lousy week. Watched To Have and Have Not as tribute tonight.
Aug 13, 2014 0:25:58 GMT -5
HollywoodHepcat: Oh my God. Betty. My heart's in my throat.
Aug 13, 2014 5:45:59 GMT -5
lomola : hello fellow KH fans Just stumbled upon this interesting board.. Does anyone have any video interviews with KH?? Or maybe transcripts of them? I´ve been especially looking for the full version of the famous Cavett one forever and ever...
Sept 15, 2014 16:06:41 GMT -5
lomola : the bits of it i found on youtube were just amazing..
Sept 15, 2014 16:07:35 GMT -5
Laura: Is there anybody here? My registration has been pending approval forever... Maybe this board has been abandonned by the owner..
Dec 15, 2014 3:40:49 GMT -5
Fran: I think the problem with actresses such as Bette Davis and Joan Crawford was that they played SEX SYMBOLS and did woman movies. They were sexy in their day and were the main love interests in the movie. When they got older those woman type movies were dead
Jun 26, 2017 16:56:41 GMT -5
Fran: Bette Davis made very different movies from Katherine Hepburn Hepburn. Bette was sexy. So was Crawford. They made woman type movies. Hepburn was the masculine feminist. When their looks went, so did their careers. Hepburn was never that type.
Jun 26, 2017 16:57:53 GMT -5
Angela: Personally, I like Bette Davis best she was "a woman for all season" she didn't mince words she did the role without having to apologize for creativity she musters to do the work. Also, she could look different without worrying about her appearance.
Mar 14, 2019 19:54:07 GMT -5
Angela: Personally, I felt Bette Davis was the "woman for all seasons" since she used all her creativity to make her artwork. As for Katherine she seems to sound the same - her voice didn't change. Granted she was good in Shakespeare which I give credit.
Mar 14, 2019 19:56:35 GMT -5
SJS: Bette had a mostly latent tendency to ham, and she admitted it. She really appreciated a director who could get her to tone it down. She lost respect for a director who would let her get away with it. But she took chances that most actresses wouldn't.
Apr 15, 2020 14:12:32 GMT -5