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Luddy
Oct 22, 2006 22:17:51 GMT -5
Post by Sherry on Oct 22, 2006 22:17:51 GMT -5
As Smith said The Scotsman and this article have some inaccuracies and the story about Kate appearing in Philadelphia in "Peter Pan" is one of them. Kate's stage and film appearances have been fully documented many times over and there is no record of Kate in Philadelphia in Peter Pan. I live near Phila. and any visits Kate made to the city over the years was well documented and I've seen nothing documenting this.
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Luddy
Oct 23, 2006 3:38:18 GMT -5
Post by dreamer on Oct 23, 2006 3:38:18 GMT -5
Perhaps it isn't Peter Pan but As You Like It - the photo of the program could make you think of Peter Pan - sometimes kids remember similarities but not names ??   but who knows?  |
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Luddy
Oct 23, 2006 10:07:54 GMT -5
Post by dreamer on Oct 23, 2006 10:07:54 GMT -5
Another suggestion is The Warrior’s Husband from 1932, as Morley Sheridan says in Katharine Hepburn, A celebration; "the young Amazon Antiope is a boyish, steel-sprung woman, who suggests a tougher and more dynamic Peter Pan" One can only guess – don’t remember reading that The Warrior’s Husband was on tour or even in Philadelphia  Sherry - was it? |
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Luddy
Oct 23, 2006 11:42:21 GMT -5
Post by Sherry on Oct 23, 2006 11:42:21 GMT -5
Think you may be onto something. Kate didn't tour The Warrior's Husband plus that was in 1932 and she and Luddy were still married.
But in 1950 when she did As You Like It for the Theatre Guild, she did tour with it and that may have come to Philadelphia so that may be the play that the writer saw her in and with her costumed as Rosalind, he may have confused it in later years and thought she was in Peter Pan.
Good sleuthing. :-)
Sherry
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Luddy
Dec 9, 2006 17:46:20 GMT -5
Post by dreamer on Dec 9, 2006 17:46:20 GMT -5
Hi guy's
wasn't Luddy some kind of inventor in a booking system (with payment ?) and did not bother to care for a patent ?
As the matter of fact I think he was quit talented with everything technically (hifi, electricity, maschines at Fenwick which were brooke.
He was a man, who could do almost everything.
And he spoke several languages to - recalling right?
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Luddy
Dec 9, 2006 18:23:42 GMT -5
Post by smith on Dec 9, 2006 18:23:42 GMT -5
Luddy was a smart guy - he apparently worked in an early form of computers thata installed payroll - he was pretty technical and was apparently an excellent musician
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Luddy
Dec 9, 2006 19:45:53 GMT -5
Post by dreamer on Dec 9, 2006 19:45:53 GMT -5
Reading the Scotsman (page one this thread) again and recalling some things in ME - I think she was pretty hard on/with her self sometimes - or was she just honest ? Suspect both Any other thoughts on this ? |
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Luddy
Dec 9, 2006 19:50:08 GMT -5
Post by dreamer on Dec 9, 2006 19:50:08 GMT -5
Hi guy's wasn't Luddy some kind of inventor in a booking system (with payment ?) and did not bother to care for a patent ? As the matter of fact I think he was quit talented with everything technically (hifi, electricity, maschines at Fenwick which were brooke. He was a man, who could do almost everything. And he spoke several languages to - recalling right? This was not quit true - smith wrote what it is called. What he invented, was a record changer - where he did not bother for a patent. (Kate was furious, that he didn't) <- MEHe was quit talented with everything some kind of a handyman. "He could make anything work - my life - the car - the furnace - the this - the that. Carpenter-mechanic-plumper."; Kate in METhat he spoke several languages is true - he had an ear for them. |
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Luddy
Jan 26, 2008 19:13:01 GMT -5
Post by Hep on Jan 26, 2008 19:13:01 GMT -5
Im confused; I searched Luddy on Google cuss I heard he named his daughter Katharine so I wanted to see; and this is what it says about him..
He married Katharine Hepburn in 1928; she was 21 and he was 29. They met while she was in her senior year at Bryn Mawr College, through a mutual friend who lived next to campus. They separated in 1934 and Kate traveled to Mexico to gain a divorce. After the divorce and his purging from the Philadelphia Social Register, he changed his name to Ogden Smith Ludlow to gain back his anonymity. A rumor persists that the change was made at Hepburn's request so that she would not be known as "Kate Smith" (Kate Smith was a popular singer of the time) but this appears to be one of many Hepburn legends. Fearing that the Mexican divorce may not have been legal, Ludlow secured a divorce in Connecticut on September 18, 1941 in anticipation of his remarriage.
So wait, he didnt change his name cus of Kate?
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Luddy
Jan 26, 2008 19:15:10 GMT -5
Post by Hep on Jan 26, 2008 19:15:10 GMT -5
No wait that HAS to be wrong; becuase I saw a picture of one of Kaths pasports and she signed it Katharine Ludlow--so Wikipedias wrong then
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Luddy
Jan 26, 2008 20:11:12 GMT -5
Post by Judy on Jan 26, 2008 20:11:12 GMT -5
No wait that HAS to be wrong; becuase I saw a picture of one of Kaths pasports and she signed it Katharine Ludlow--so Wikipedias wrong then Wikipedia is often loaded with errors.... What I know: His name was Ludlow Ogden Smith and he changed it to Smith Ogden Ludlow. The legend is that he changed it because Kate didn't want to be known as Kate Smith....Could be the reason. Or it may not have had ANYTHING to do with the singer Kate Smith, but only that she didn't want Smith as a last name. Could be. Does not sound unlikely. But there are people who like to challenge EVERY bit of Kate's life and that is likely who posted that story on Wikipedia. And you're right, she did indeed sign her name as Ludlow on that passport. I guess these people think she was not above doing something illegal to "maintain" the legend. These people are - simply put - nuts. I don't know when he changed it back. Or IF he changed it back...Or why. But I don't think it was to Ogden Smith Ludlow, which was not his original name. Somebody here know? |
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Luddy
Jan 27, 2008 4:22:28 GMT -5
Post by dreamer on Jan 27, 2008 4:22:28 GMT -5
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Luddy
Jan 27, 2008 9:18:49 GMT -5
Post by Hep on Jan 27, 2008 9:18:49 GMT -5
Hmm; well in Wikipedia it says his kids names are Ludlow-so maybe he lfet it; or changed it after his kids were born?
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Luddy
Jan 27, 2008 10:18:34 GMT -5
Post by Judy on Jan 27, 2008 10:18:34 GMT -5
Hmm; well in Wikipedia it says his kids names are Ludlow-so maybe he lfet it; or changed it after his kids were born? Seriously, I wouldn't use Wikipedia as a reliable source. |
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Luddy
Jan 27, 2008 10:25:18 GMT -5
Post by Judy on Jan 27, 2008 10:25:18 GMT -5
Hmm; well in Wikipedia it says his kids names are Ludlow-so maybe he lfet it; or changed it after his kids were born? Seriously, I wouldn't use Wikipedia as a reliable source. And, anyway, they're saying he changed it to Ogden Smith Ludlow, which was a combination that I don't ever believe was in the mix.... ;D |
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