Tha point about Kate is that she's incomparable! There really isn't/wasn't any other like her - she's a mix of so many different women, interesting when many of her critics claim she only played herself.
She had Bette Davis's Yankee independence but none of her melodrama (or coarseness), she had Garbo's sense of apartness & her beauty but not her exotic langour, she shared the masculinity but not the decadence of Dietrich and I hate comparisons with Meryl Streep, because other than their oscar nominations I can't see they have anything in common at all! Jeanne Moreau wasn't really in the same league -if we're making French comparisons I'd go for Isabelle Huppert for sheer acting talent. They even share the same colouring and famous freckles, if not the height.
Susan Sarandon's more a Bette/Kate mix and Sigourney Weaver shares some of the "haughtiness". Funnily enough, I can see Julia Roberts in several Kate roles and yet I wouldn't bracket the two together....and so it goes on.
There is no one like Katharine Hepburn but I must say that Cate Blanchett somewhat reminds me of her (I haven't seen The Aviator) but I can see a sort of resemblance in the mannerisms or attitude I guess. Not sure what it is but I think she was a great pick for the role of Kate... can't think of anyone else who could have played it. Is it just me or does Kate Bosworth remind you of Katharine Houghton?
:I never lose sight of the fact that just being is fun: Katharine Houghton Hepburn @-}---------
I can't comment on Kate Bosworth & Kate Houghton, but if we're comparing actresses then maybe we should compare different portrayals of the same role eg Joanne Woodward & Kate as Amanda Wingfield in The Glass Menagerie, Bette & Kate as Miss Moffat in The Corn is Green or Glenn Close & Kate as Eleanor of Aquitane in The Lion in Winter. What do you think?
And has anyone seen Maggie Smith as Violet Venable in the TV version of Suddenly Last Summer? (An interesting sideline - she took the role Kate coveted in Travels with my Aunt)
Vanessa Redgrave & Kate have both portrayed Mary Queen of Scots, and whilst I don't like to compare Grace Kelly as Tracy Lord in High Society, I wouldn't mind seeing the new revival of The Philadelphia Story in London right now.
Here's something I've been thinking about for a while now...The uniqueness of these actresses we admire.
Starting with Kate Hepburn at the top of my list, but continuing with Davis, Stanwyck, Moreau, Bergman and many many more I could mention who came up in the 30's, 40's and 50's.
While it's a nice game to play to try and find actresses today who compare - and I am a fan of Streep, Julianne Moore and others - when push comes to shove, I really do not think ANYONE compares to these women.
You know that phrase: "They had faces then"?
It's true. They were pains in the butt, ego driven and brilliant. They had faces and intellect and style and panache and class.
It may be a by-product of my getting older, but, to me, EVERYONE looks the same now, sounds the same, dresses the same. Everyone suffers in comparison to these uniquely individual artists.
They definitely did "have faces then". But they also had different lighting, makeup and those wonderful silver gelatin prints. I think black & white photography is far superior to colour and the whole crackling, grainy filmstock of old black & white movies only serves to add to their magic.
I don't disagree...They had a lot of creative people making them into the images we know...But I'm saying, take away all that lighting and gorgeous photography. And imagine KH, Davis, Dietrich, Garbo and Bergman walking down the street right at you....Now imagine any number of today's very talented actors doing the same...Which group would turn your head?
Haha tennis game indeed. I don't think I could pick a side. Kate would turn my head because of the contrasting freckled skin and red hair with no make-up. She was so gorgeous without all of that. But most women look better without make-up, in my opinion.
:I never lose sight of the fact that just being is fun: Katharine Houghton Hepburn @-}---------
I'm upset, nobody says in france that Catherine deneuve is french katharine hepburn !!!!! our gilles jacob had to be drunk this day. Deneuve is not comparable to kate. For me none french actress can be compared to hepburn (our cinema is really different but nor worth nor best), they play differently. If we want to find some comparisons : maybe jeanne moreau, for her nature ; Fanny Ardant for her smart modulations, isabelle huppert for the choice of her role. For the apparence, maybe Annette benning, geraldine chaplin and karin viard (french actress) look like Kate a little. But I don't have find yet, some actress ( wherever she come from) with the wealth of hepburn 's acting. She's single and that's why we love and admire her !
"I never realized until lately that women were supposed to be the inferior sex. " Katharine Hepburn
Compare? Well, it's too much. You know: "never to be replaced".
But lately I have watched a few movies with Helen Mirren. She isn't Kate (only Kate was Kate ), but she has the power and much of class. She impressed me like no actress for many months (Kate, I must underline once more, is out of reach).
I can't help. I must add something to my last post I found some quotes and they make my Kate-Helen comparison more interesting. We all know Kate's quotes about acting and life. And...
Helen about acting: "When you do Shakespeare they think you must be intelligent because they think you understand what you're saying." "All you have to do is to look like crap on film and everyone thinks you're a brilliant actress. Actually, all you've done is look like crap."
About Elizabeth I: "It's never been confirmed that Elizabeth was a virgin. It's like the Virgin Mary - it's about branding, a logo. To use a modern term, Elizabeth was actually a bit of a slut."
And about life: "The trick in life is learning how to deal with it."
Haha, yeah, I know, Helen's definitely got the spunk, I really like her . And she's right about Elizabeth I (as much as I love Elizabeth ).
Still, I don't think any actress will ever be like Kate... she was so unique, as a woman and as an actress... I'm probably repeating in a rather clumsy manner what others already said but... goodness, I have always loved classic Hollywood, from when I was really, really little onwards, but then Kate came and she threw everything more or less upside down. She was, in my opinion, both very much a child of her time and way ahead of her time. I'm gonna stop gushing now .
Last Edit: Mar 1, 2007 19:21:50 GMT -5 by nerweniel
I agree, of course. As I wrote - Kate is out of reach. But it's interesting to try compare somebody to her. Some actress are.. well, not close maybe, but closer than others And I think Helen Mirren is in this category.
You talked about Maggie Smith in thread about movies. Yeah, she is fantastic too.
And Kate... You're right Nerewniel. Ahead of time, so modern. The one.
Judy: All has changed on the Proboard....Not sure my reply got posted. Anyway, thanks for the notice, Evelien. I'm unable to access it. I can watch the clip of the woman flipping through the Kate books and talking about fashion - one of which is Rebel Chic :-)
Feb 4, 2014 20:29:21 GMT -5
dreamer: Ok peeps have tried to figure this new board - with not much success In order to login - click at the upper right corner - use your name from the board and your password and it should be all right. If not - please let me know and I will try to help!
Jul 29, 2014 7:30:03 GMT -5
Judy: I can enter. But not sure how to post now....Although I have nothing exciting to say, except hello to everyone!
Jul 29, 2014 20:34:38 GMT -5
Sherry: Hello in return.
Jul 31, 2014 10:40:25 GMT -5
HollywoodHepcat: Awww, hiiii!! I'm randomly here in hope of sourcing a quote of Kate's about Joel Mccrea-- coming up short, though. Ah well, hope everyone is well!! FINALLY A RED AND WHITE BANNER. TOOK 8 YEARS, BUT... WE MADE IT.
Aug 5, 2014 20:43:01 GMT -5
Tracy Lord: Just wanted to say a big HEY to everyone! I would love it if this board was active like it once was. I've missed it!
Aug 6, 2014 17:23:36 GMT -5
evelien: Hi everyone, hope you're all fine. I'm still alive and kicking and still as big a KH fan.
Aug 12, 2014 12:09:24 GMT -5
evelien: Judy: to reply to an existing thread, you can post a message in the 'quick reply' box under the last post on the page. To create a new thread: click on the folder you wish to post a new thread in and on the top right side you can choose 'New thread'.
Aug 12, 2014 12:11:39 GMT -5
CFK: So we all heard about Betty Bacall, I guess? Pretty rotten news, especially following so closely on Robin Williams. What a lousy week. Watched To Have and Have Not as tribute tonight.
Aug 13, 2014 0:25:58 GMT -5
HollywoodHepcat: Oh my God. Betty. My heart's in my throat.
Aug 13, 2014 5:45:59 GMT -5
lomola : hello fellow KH fans Just stumbled upon this interesting board.. Does anyone have any video interviews with KH?? Or maybe transcripts of them? I´ve been especially looking for the full version of the famous Cavett one forever and ever...
Sept 15, 2014 16:06:41 GMT -5
lomola : the bits of it i found on youtube were just amazing..
Sept 15, 2014 16:07:35 GMT -5
Laura: Is there anybody here? My registration has been pending approval forever... Maybe this board has been abandonned by the owner..
Dec 15, 2014 3:40:49 GMT -5
Fran: I think the problem with actresses such as Bette Davis and Joan Crawford was that they played SEX SYMBOLS and did woman movies. They were sexy in their day and were the main love interests in the movie. When they got older those woman type movies were dead
Jun 26, 2017 16:56:41 GMT -5
Fran: Bette Davis made very different movies from Katherine Hepburn Hepburn. Bette was sexy. So was Crawford. They made woman type movies. Hepburn was the masculine feminist. When their looks went, so did their careers. Hepburn was never that type.
Jun 26, 2017 16:57:53 GMT -5
Angela: Personally, I like Bette Davis best she was "a woman for all season" she didn't mince words she did the role without having to apologize for creativity she musters to do the work. Also, she could look different without worrying about her appearance.
Mar 14, 2019 19:54:07 GMT -5
Angela: Personally, I felt Bette Davis was the "woman for all seasons" since she used all her creativity to make her artwork. As for Katherine she seems to sound the same - her voice didn't change. Granted she was good in Shakespeare which I give credit.
Mar 14, 2019 19:56:35 GMT -5
SJS: Bette had a mostly latent tendency to ham, and she admitted it. She really appreciated a director who could get her to tone it down. She lost respect for a director who would let her get away with it. But she took chances that most actresses wouldn't.
Apr 15, 2020 14:12:32 GMT -5