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Post by charliesgirl7681 on Jul 17, 2010 9:42:00 GMT -5
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Post by martha on Jul 17, 2010 9:53:05 GMT -5
i've watching this kind of tasteless sale, living off the remnant history of individuals before. Garland is but one example.
there is law .. and there is class. and the subsequent wife of Gary Morton, Lucy's husband after Desi ... may have the need for money but shows little class in pursuing the sale of love letters involving Lucy ... these should be gifted back to Lucy's children and or some mutually agreed upon archive or something.
Items like these belong in research archives and memorial museums not on the auction block.
[as the daughter of someone who had a second marriage after my mother's death and that second someone holds our family memories -- photos, etc. -- out of spite now that my father is deceased, not that these items have monetary worth .. i acknowledge i react to this whole scenario from an ethical as well as an emotional point of view.]
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Post by Judy on Jul 17, 2010 10:42:50 GMT -5
i've watching this kind of tasteless sale, living off the remnant history of individuals before. Garland is but one example. there is law .. and there is class. and the subsequent wife of Gary Morton, Lucy's husband after Desi ... may have the need for money but shows little class in pursuing the sale of love letters involving Lucy ... these should be gifted back to Lucy's children and or some mutually agreed upon archive or something. Items like these belong in research archives and memorial museums not on the auction block. [as the daughter of someone who had a second marriage after my mother's death and that second someone holds our family memories -- photos, etc. -- out of spite now that my father is deceased, not that these items have monetary worth .. i acknowledge i react to this whole scenario from an ethical as well as an emotional point of view.] I'm in complete agreement with you here, Martha. I have a friend whose husband went through the exact same things you are going through and it's disgusting and reprehensible. Can't be defended. The article says that Susan Morton claimed that Lucie Luckinbill gave up rights to these items when her mother's estate was distributed. Even if this claim were true, which seems doubtful, since she - Lucie - has gone to so much trouble to preserve her parents' memories for the public and, now, to keep them from being sold off - plain, old compassion and ethics would behoove the widow Morton to understand how hurtful this must be to Lucille Ball's family. The idea that someone who had NO relationship to Lucy - other than the fact that she married her widower - could go and hawk personal letters is horrifying and ugly. I AM curious though at the idea that the Luckinbills refused to pay the $250.000, saying they couldn't afford it. I find that a bit hard to believe, but perhaps it was a simple matter of them not wanting to be blackmailed by Susan Morton, which is what paying this fee would amount to.
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Post by charliesgirl7681 on Jul 17, 2010 14:19:49 GMT -5
I just don't get why they aren't Lucy's? They were her mother's. All this legal crap confuses me and makes me angry. I saw Lucile Ball as the top search on Yahoo! and wondered what was going on.
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Post by martha on Jul 17, 2010 14:49:47 GMT -5
I AM curious though at the idea that the Luckinbills refused to pay the $250.000, saying they couldn't afford it. I find that a bit hard to believe, but perhaps it was a simple matter of them not wanting to be blackmailed by Susan Morton, which is what paying this fee would amount to. i don't know the specifics of the luckinbill situation of course. but just a story for context: my siblings and i fought for the right to access things like our parents wedding silver that said 2nd wife of my father held, and a few other things. and the court was loathe to order the widow to hand things over (but the will specified that she do so upon her death) ... we were free however to have things appraised and to offer her cash for these things. yes, felt like blackmail just a bit. equivalence? i dunno. seems so to me ... i feel for lucie i gotta say.
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Post by Judy on Jul 17, 2010 15:01:28 GMT -5
I AM curious though at the idea that the Luckinbills refused to pay the $250.000, saying they couldn't afford it. I find that a bit hard to believe, but perhaps it was a simple matter of them not wanting to be blackmailed by Susan Morton, which is what paying this fee would amount to. i don't know the specifics of the luckinbill situation of course. but just a story for context: my siblings and i fought for the right to access things like our parents wedding silver that said 2nd wife of my father held, and a few other things. and the court was loathe to order the widow to hand things over (but the will specified that she do so upon her death) ... we were free however to have things appraised and to offer her cash for these things. yes, felt like blackmail just a bit. equivalence? i dunno. seems so to me ... i feel for lucie i gotta say. Yes. It's blackmail. I have these things from your mother that mean nothing to me but the money they can bring. You have money. Pay me or you'll never see them again. Blackmail.
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Post by Judy on Jul 17, 2010 15:02:44 GMT -5
i don't know the specifics of the luckinbill situation of course. but just a story for context: my siblings and i fought for the right to access things like our parents wedding silver that said 2nd wife of my father held, and a few other things. and the court was loathe to order the widow to hand things over (but the will specified that she do so upon her death) ... we were free however to have things appraised and to offer her cash for these things. yes, felt like blackmail just a bit. equivalence? i dunno. seems so to me ... i feel for lucie i gotta say. Yes. It's blackmail. I have these things from your mother that mean nothing to me but the money they can bring. You have money. Pay me or you'll never see them again. Blackmail. No. Blackmail's the wrong word. Extortion. That's it!
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Post by martha on Jul 17, 2010 15:08:15 GMT -5
No. Blackmail's the wrong word. Extortion. That's it! now that i think about it, at the time (2003 all this "went down" in my family) we used the word "ransom" a lot. evoking many of these same sentiments. yessiree bob.
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