style icon. luminous actress, great talent for living. kate has a huge part of my fan's heart. the rest i give to judy garland ... a kate colleague and different kind of performer. both deeply respected each other's talents (note what kate says about garland in ME, for example ... sweetly 'gets' her). 'nuff said. i feel i can live the duality. i am a gemini after all.
Kate is my favorite, absolutely. I have a few actresses I love (Helen Mirren, Myrna Loy, Lauren Bacall, Michelle Pfeiffer, Danuta Stenka and Marzena Trybala - two Polish actresses, and much more). But they are "just" the great actresses (well, maybe Marzena Trybala is someone more, but I saw her on the stage and talked withe her a few times). I don't have to know much about them. I don't have to read all the things they said. I don't have to have all movies they acted in (and I don't have to watch this movies million times). I don't have them on my desktop and I don't try to pretend I speak English on their forums. Yeah, Kate is my favorite.
You've been pretending you speak English, Kama? You seem like an expert English speaker to my ol' Kentucky ears (in this case, eyes). Granted, we're known for mangling the language.
To answer your question Shane, yes Kate is my very favorite actress. She's the first I took an interest in--from any generation-- meaning I've devoured all of her films and poured over every printed word I could find on her. There are other actresses (and actors too) whom I like very much including Stanwyck, Garbo, Irene Dunne, Myrna Loy, Ida Lupino, Agnes Moorehead and yes, Bette Davis. To be frank, Davis is my second favorite. Please don't beat me up. ;D However, I don't feel compelled to collect all the movies these ladies ever made. I want to see them all, but I don't need a copy of every one of them cluttering up my shelves. It's a different story with dear Kate. And I don't have ten plus books about Agnes Moorehead!
"Life is hard. After all, it kills you."--Katharine Hepburn
Kate has always been my favorite also. But I like a lot of other actresses as well -- too many to name -- but my top ten are currently, and these are in order too:
Katharine Hepburn Bette Davis (Shane must be steaming by now) Audrey Hepburn Joan Crawford Barbara Stanwyck Judy Garland Vivien Leigh Ingrid Bergman Lauren Bacall Greta Garbo
It's hard enough just to narrow it down to only ten, that's why such names like Carole Lombard, Jean Harlow, Marlene Dietrich, Ginger Rogers, Irene Dunne, Jean Arthur, Grace Kelly, Claudette Colbert, Ida Lupino and Judy Holliday, whom I all adore immensely, are not included. The actresses on my top ten list are legendary, in every sense of the word. All recognizable names, and for good reason too. These women are talent. They are beautiful. And I'd do every one of them!
Last Edit: Feb 19, 2008 18:36:51 GMT -5 by Richard
"As a human being, I don't suppose I have any real individuality. I'm the people I've met; I'm a mixture of everything I've ever read or seen. I'm everyone I've ever loved."
Its funny with Bette. I can enjoy her in some of her movies. But ultimately - so over rated. It's just odd.
There are many actresses I adore Kate (no kidding) Joan (recent development though...used to loathe her actually) Elizabeth T Rita Hayworth Gene Tierney Vivi (en Leigh) Stanwyck Bergie (Ingrid) BACALL how could I forget her Garbo kinda - I find her less of a great actress than the others, but she had something
but Kate is still number one.
And I agree, some of the others I'm not necessarily interested in owning all of their films. But that being said, where live it's hard to see them WITHOUT buying them from overseas... that's why it's taking me so long to get anywhere. I haven't had the money to buy anything for awhile. I did get La Vie En Rose though. JOY! Marion Cottilard best win that Oscar, or I'll be waging war on the Academy.
First priority on my amazon wishlist is the Crawford boxed sets!! My Gosh. I'M DYING HERE! NEED...TO..SEE...THOSE...MOVIES
I also want to see Old Acquaintance. Because I think it looks delightful.
Why did Davis have pretty much that same pompous, almost british rich bitch accent in everything? I think that's a large part of why I don't like her. She always had this way of talking that was the same in everything, and it was just how she spoke (like Kate's Bryn Mawr thang...). In interviews she talks much more down to earth and less grandly, almost trashily. Yet in the films she had...I'll stop. But yes.
Kateness IS greatness.
People keep arguing with my opinions on imdb. It's strange. I seem to create problems all over the place. "people just seemed to hate me...no matter what I played"
I'm not giving up on this bone with Bette Davis just yet. I want to hash this thing out. I think you have a lot in common with a certain poster on imdb on the Davis board. I believe he feels that most of Davis' post-1942 output is unwatchable, thanks how "hammy" and "overblown" her performances became. He cites her artificial British accent as a sticking point, something that she didn't pick up until around the early to mid 40s. Granted, many actors of the time had affected dialects which seemed to be from neither here (U.S.) nor there (England). She was much more plain spoken early on. He finds her to be a much more refeshing actresses in her work from the 30s, which I tend to agree with though I like many of her later films and performances.
So......since your dislike for the actress reminds me of this poster I'm wondering if you have mostly seen latter day Davis movies. May I ask which ones you have seen? I would like to recommend some of her earlier stuff like THE GOLDEN ARROW and FRONT PAGE WOMAN. She's much more charming here and less grand dame-ish. I realize these are probably impossible to find where you live. I'd like to hear your opinion on anything Davis did from 1933-1937. However, if you have seen movies from this time and still feel the same you just plain don't like Bette Davis and I'll hush. ;D
P.S. Please do try and see OLD ACQUAINTANCE. As I recall Richard really liked it, me less so. It's still enjoyable. I have an inkling that Bette will get on your nerves.
"Life is hard. After all, it kills you."--Katharine Hepburn
He's one of the characters that I have... clashed with. I clash with lots of people though. I think I'm too much for most people. And I can be quite rude on forums. Except this, where I am pleasant(ish). But on the internet movie database there's just too many people thinking they're right, and others wrong.
I never claim to be right unless I am (ha!), but I almost always claim not to be wrong. How can opinions be wrong? Subjective statements of opinion can never be wrong?
And about that "I'd do every one of them" comment - wasn't it a joke?
OoOOooH my giddy gosh. You know what...JUST walked through my door!?
A strange dog! THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
Our cat looks...somewhat alarmed. I better go remove this beast from my home...
Judy: All has changed on the Proboard....Not sure my reply got posted. Anyway, thanks for the notice, Evelien. I'm unable to access it. I can watch the clip of the woman flipping through the Kate books and talking about fashion - one of which is Rebel Chic :-)
Feb 4, 2014 20:29:21 GMT -5
dreamer: Ok peeps have tried to figure this new board - with not much success In order to login - click at the upper right corner - use your name from the board and your password and it should be all right. If not - please let me know and I will try to help!
Jul 29, 2014 7:30:03 GMT -5
Judy: I can enter. But not sure how to post now....Although I have nothing exciting to say, except hello to everyone!
Jul 29, 2014 20:34:38 GMT -5
Sherry: Hello in return.
Jul 31, 2014 10:40:25 GMT -5
HollywoodHepcat: Awww, hiiii!! I'm randomly here in hope of sourcing a quote of Kate's about Joel Mccrea-- coming up short, though. Ah well, hope everyone is well!! FINALLY A RED AND WHITE BANNER. TOOK 8 YEARS, BUT... WE MADE IT.
Aug 5, 2014 20:43:01 GMT -5
Tracy Lord: Just wanted to say a big HEY to everyone! I would love it if this board was active like it once was. I've missed it!
Aug 6, 2014 17:23:36 GMT -5
evelien: Hi everyone, hope you're all fine. I'm still alive and kicking and still as big a KH fan.
Aug 12, 2014 12:09:24 GMT -5
evelien: Judy: to reply to an existing thread, you can post a message in the 'quick reply' box under the last post on the page. To create a new thread: click on the folder you wish to post a new thread in and on the top right side you can choose 'New thread'.
Aug 12, 2014 12:11:39 GMT -5
CFK: So we all heard about Betty Bacall, I guess? Pretty rotten news, especially following so closely on Robin Williams. What a lousy week. Watched To Have and Have Not as tribute tonight.
Aug 13, 2014 0:25:58 GMT -5
HollywoodHepcat: Oh my God. Betty. My heart's in my throat.
Aug 13, 2014 5:45:59 GMT -5
lomola : hello fellow KH fans Just stumbled upon this interesting board.. Does anyone have any video interviews with KH?? Or maybe transcripts of them? I´ve been especially looking for the full version of the famous Cavett one forever and ever...
Sept 15, 2014 16:06:41 GMT -5
lomola : the bits of it i found on youtube were just amazing..
Sept 15, 2014 16:07:35 GMT -5
Laura: Is there anybody here? My registration has been pending approval forever... Maybe this board has been abandonned by the owner..
Dec 15, 2014 3:40:49 GMT -5
Fran: I think the problem with actresses such as Bette Davis and Joan Crawford was that they played SEX SYMBOLS and did woman movies. They were sexy in their day and were the main love interests in the movie. When they got older those woman type movies were dead
Jun 26, 2017 16:56:41 GMT -5
Fran: Bette Davis made very different movies from Katherine Hepburn Hepburn. Bette was sexy. So was Crawford. They made woman type movies. Hepburn was the masculine feminist. When their looks went, so did their careers. Hepburn was never that type.
Jun 26, 2017 16:57:53 GMT -5
Angela: Personally, I like Bette Davis best she was "a woman for all season" she didn't mince words she did the role without having to apologize for creativity she musters to do the work. Also, she could look different without worrying about her appearance.
Mar 14, 2019 19:54:07 GMT -5
Angela: Personally, I felt Bette Davis was the "woman for all seasons" since she used all her creativity to make her artwork. As for Katherine she seems to sound the same - her voice didn't change. Granted she was good in Shakespeare which I give credit.
Mar 14, 2019 19:56:35 GMT -5