Post by HollywoodHepcat on Sept 12, 2008 0:55:03 GMT -5
Pardon the belated welcome, but WELCOME Violetta! And thank you muchly for the translations!
See: Dayna made the cap.
Actually, this cap isn't really a great example, because maybe a split second before this he has his hands on her coolie. Gah.
Sigh. I wonder if Kate helped to write any of the kisssy-kissy scenes. Ya know, when they were perfecting the first 75-page draft. I mean, I would have been a bit nervous knowing I had to mack it with Spencer Tracy COPIOUS TIMES.
And Judy, I believe you're right about Kate THINKING that was used in the film. As much as I want to believe that everything was spur of the moment... Something just didn't match up with her story and the film, and that's probably the reason why.
Violetta's translation sent me back to look at our Woman of the Year thread....I think I didn't explain myself properly about my view of Kate's recollection of the scene in the bar. What I meant to say was that what Kate remembered - about spilling the glass of water and mopping it up - likely DID happen - and that's why it remained in her memory - but was NOT the take that Stevens ultimately used. Still, it remained a vivid memory for her, having shot it.
I remember reading a comment somewhere - exactly where escapes me now and by whom, though it could have been Cukor - that the only rule T&H made while filming was that if either went up on a line they were not to stop shooting; they were to keep going - presumably so as not to stop their momentum or their concentration on a scene. I can visualize that happening here. She tips the glass and he automatically hands her the handkerchief and she doesn't miss a beat and starts mopping up the water. Maybe we were witnessing the birth of that "rule." ... Except we didn't really witness it cause it didn't make the final cut.
Nice to think about that rule though. I always thought it was in play during the driving to work scene in Adam's Rib, when he says "Oh, you're giving me the Bryn Mawr..." I have to go look at the screenplay. It PLAYS as if it were an ad lib - like the Grandma Moses line - and you can see her look up and seemingly try to surpress a laugh - it's just a split second look on her face, but it's there. Whether it was rehearsed that way or whether it was a spontaneous reaction to an ad-lib we'll never know. But I like to think it was him trying to trip her up and her recovering nicely. Just like she did in Pinky's bar.
Oy. First, I cringe at some of the things I've penned on here. What.... was I talking about half of the time?! Cringe cringe cringe.
Anyways, I don't know if either the miscommunication was in part because I was lamebrained and forgot the power of the RETAKE or maybe the phrasing. I sort of figured it out by now, but thank you for coming back and explaining it to me!
Also, that not-so-innocent butt-grab/pat in the apartment. HAHA SPENCE, YOU WERE CALLED OUT!
See: Dayna made the cap.
Actually, this cap isn't really a great example, because maybe a split second before this he has his hands on her coolie. Gah.
Sigh. I wonder if Kate helped to write any of the kisssy-kissy scenes. Ya know, when they were perfecting the first 75-page draft. I mean, I would have been a bit nervous knowing I had to mack it with Spencer Tracy COPIOUS TIMES.
And Judy, I believe you're right about Kate THINKING that was used in the film. As much as I want to believe that everything was spur of the moment... Something just didn't match up with her story and the film, and that's probably the reason why.
Violetta's translation sent me back to look at our Woman of the Year thread....I think I didn't explain myself properly about my view of Kate's recollection of the scene in the bar. What I meant to say was that what Kate remembered - about spilling the glass of water and mopping it up - likely DID happen - and that's why it remained in her memory - but was NOT the take that Stevens ultimately used. Still, it remained a vivid memory for her, having shot it.
I remember reading a comment somewhere - exactly where escapes me now and by whom, though it could have been Cukor - that the only rule T&H made while filming was that if either went up on a line they were not to stop shooting; they were to keep going - presumably so as not to stop their momentum or their concentration on a scene. I can visualize that happening here. She tips the glass and he automatically hands her the handkerchief and she doesn't miss a beat and starts mopping up the water. Maybe we were witnessing the birth of that "rule." ... Except we didn't really witness it cause it didn't make the final cut.
Nice to think about that rule though. I always thought it was in play during the driving to work scene in Adam's Rib, when he says "Oh, you're giving me the Bryn Mawr..." I have to go look at the screenplay. It PLAYS as if it were an ad lib - like the Grandma Moses line - and you can see her look up and seemingly try to surpress a laugh - it's just a split second look on her face, but it's there. Whether it was rehearsed that way or whether it was a spontaneous reaction to an ad-lib we'll never know. But I like to think it was him trying to trip her up and her recovering nicely. Just like she did in Pinky's bar.
Oy. First, I cringe at some of the things I've penned on here. What.... was I talking about half of the time?! Cringe cringe cringe.
Anyways, I don't know if either the miscommunication was in part because I was lamebrained and forgot the power of the RETAKE or maybe the phrasing. I sort of figured it out by now, but thank you for coming back and explaining it to me!