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Post by charliesgirl7681 on Jan 31, 2010 11:45:30 GMT -5
Can someone explain what exactly went on between Bacall and Sinatra? I heard that they were engaged right after Bogart died and then there was some big falling out. I've been trying to figure out what happened but I can't find the full story.
Thanks
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Post by martha on Jan 31, 2010 17:29:43 GMT -5
get a hold of her memoir (she has written more than one) called BY MYSELF AND THEN SOME (the slightly augmented later edition of the original BY MYSELF). she gives a long description of the sinatra relationship in it. basically: frank was one of the members of the ORIGINAL rat pack that included bogart, bacall, sid luft, judy garland, agent swifty lazar .. and others ... long term friend. friendship after bogie's death became a dating relationship. but note that bacall writes of sinatra being controlling and kind of a child. and in her description frank was pissed off when, after he proposed to her, louella parson got the story of the engagement from swifty lazar and published it. catching sinatra unawares. 'twas the end of it.
but read bacall's own more extensive account of the sequence of events ...
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Post by charliesgirl7681 on Jan 31, 2010 18:40:15 GMT -5
I would like to read her bio but I'm in college and have 22 books this semester and don't have time to read. Thats why I was asked here. Thanks for posting, it always seemed strange that she was 'with' him right after Bogart died.
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Post by gottamatch on Jan 31, 2010 23:03:12 GMT -5
Thanks Martha! I've got By Myself and Then Some but I don't think I finished it lol (I'm notorious for starting books and not finishing them!), so this to me, was also helpful, thanks! I also didn't know of the rat pack trivia which is so weird because Dean Martin was on Charlie's Angels today and I was telling mum 'Dean Martin is in today's episode - you know from the Rat Pack!' lol I'll definately have to get it out and have a further read, although like Charliesgirl, I too am starting back at Uni shortly and will have loads of reading .. I've got so many bios I have to finish Jess
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Post by martha on Jan 31, 2010 23:23:46 GMT -5
just remember that there was the original Rat Pack (the one i reference above) and the one of which Dean Martin was a member ... read on, you'll get it ..
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Post by gottamatch on Feb 1, 2010 5:34:51 GMT -5
Haha yeah I get ya, I'll have to get the old girl out and have a read! Maaan, I just read the begining before it got all sad. I re-read the begining at least 5 times, so I could have finished the book at least once by now lol
Jess
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Post by charliesgirl7681 on Feb 1, 2010 9:28:12 GMT -5
Dean Martin was on Charlie's Angels
Aww Angels in Vegas that was a fun two parter.
Anyway, I'm in the middle of Ginger's bio and I have to put it down. I love my classes but sometimes they get in the way of what is important you know? lol
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Post by gottamatch on Feb 1, 2010 16:27:15 GMT -5
I'm in Ginger's autobio too!! Haha.. loved the begining. How much do you love Lela right now? A great read.
Anywhoo, yeah that Charlie's Angels ep - which evidently I didn't get to finish!!! but if it's a part II hopefully the second half will be on today!
Jess
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